July 3, 2008

The Death Penalty for Child Rapists

I'm one of these people who generally has supported the death penalty over the years but became less inclined to do so following all the reports of people being freed from death row by new DNA evidence. After all, you can't take back a capital punishment sentence once it's been imposed.

But I'm shifting back in favor of it in this way. What if we have conclusive DNA evidence that someone did do the crime? Write that into the statute and let's move on.

I'm on this topic because my blood has been boiling ever since a sharply divided Supreme Court ruled the death penalty invalid for child rapists. Is there a more heinous crime on this planet that sexually assaulting a child? In many ways, it's worse than first degree murder.

Justice Kennedy, writing for the majority, said that the crime and punishment are not equal. You're right in one regard, Jackass Kennedy, even capital punishment isn't enough for these scumbags.

If anyone has been following the case of Brooke Bennett, the 12-year-old missing in Vermont, she turned up dead this morning, most likely caused by her uncle, a former convicted sex offender. This piece of crap never should have been back on the street to begin with.

When are we, as a society, going to come to grips with the fact that convicted sex offenders can never be rehabbed, they are biological mistakes who should be eliminated from the gene pool.

Justice Kennedy, I hope you never have to live through what poor Brooke Bennett's family is dealing with. Sleep well tonight, Justice, in your ivory tower.

And Louisiana, which had imposed capital punishment for child rapists, is going back to the drawing board and looking at chemical castration for sex offenders as an alternative. Let's hope that quickly becomes a national trend.

23 comments:

Punctual Pam said...

As a North Tonawanda resident this topic has really hit hard for us folks after what happened to one of the middle school girls here. After seeing the news coverage of the man on tv during the arraignment it makes me and a lot of others very angry that he has a chance to get out one day. It has made me and many of my friends fearful to let our children walk to the corner. The less of these people we have running around our neighborhood the better. While the death penalty may be extreme for some I think that at least life imprisonment is acceptable.

P.S. yes I think this and not about homosexuals and jews as both anon's have said today. Can you ever take anything in a positive light people and not take it so out of context...geez you are comparing child rapists to homosexuals

Frank DeGeorge said...

I have the same apprehension about the death penalty as Hobbes but I believe you sexually abuse a child, you should be put to death. Good to see the first anons support child sex offenders or are to dumb to understands Hobbes' point.

The recidivism rate for sex offenders is 90 plus percent. They are dangerous and do not belong on our streets.

Anonymous said...

I don't think would work hobbers, for one reason. If having sex with is child will get you the death penalty, then you might as well just kill the kid once your done with them right? If having sex is the same as killing someone, this way the kid can't talk and bleach will wipe away any dna. Punishment must fit the crime, just ask you phd buddies at NCCC.

rufus said...

Some of this language is outrageous today...I guess a lot of child pornographers are out trying to deflect the issue today. Read the story on Brooke Bennett and then tell me that Hobbes isn't 100 percent correct.

George Lodick said...

I've been reading this blog for a while now and usually just laugh about the banter. I am not much for anonymous posting (sorry Hobbes) but today's racial and ethnic talk is absurd. (At least it's not sexually vulgar like some here think is the "best" way to respond).

Have you every dealt with the realities of a sexual preditor? Are your children terrified because someone they trusted, exploited them? Or was planning to?

Living in the Falls, ALL children learn about "stranger danger" - a stupid, but apt phrase - not the the white kids, or the Catholic kids, etc. Making your neighborhoods safe is not about race.

I'm not sure that the death penalty is right in this case, but I'm willing to discuss it. Not just make foolish comments because no one can see me on my side of the keyboard.

George Lodick said...

Of course, between the time I started to write this and the time it was posted, someone just had to desend into the gutter.

It's just sad.

Anonymous said...

hobbes must be a nazi, he censor's like one too. Why delete remark about homo's is it because your in the closet? Hobbes the homo it makes sense now, no wonder you act so up tight.

Hobbes said...

There's no reason to be droppoing n-bombs and making other racist comments. If I were a racist, I'd leave them up.

Here's an idea...find a clever way to make your point whether you agree or disagree withougt stooping to the lowest common denominator.

dark knight said...

I took Hobbes advice and just read the story of Brooke. I have tears in my eyes and I'm pissed off.

It's time this country takes an aggressive approach to dealing with sex offenders before they have a chance to kill.

George Lodick said...

First, I've tried to teach my children about reasonable safety but not to fear walking down the street. True, my childen were walking home from school when a gang dispute lead to shots fired and a foot chase that ending up going through my yard (I moved to another part of the city afterward). I grew up in Tonawanda and Grand Island and did things that I would not now allow my children to do. But, then again they have cell phones and are constantly communicating in ways we used to just watch in the movies.

I like living the the city. I went to school in Buffalo and lived in Washington DC for a few years. Niagara Falls has many big city problems but few amenities. I hope we can change that over time.

The problems of poverty and poor education need to be addressed - not simply by spending more money - and these are not just racial problems. These debates require serious discussion without the heated emotional vitriol that passes for/or stiffles discourse.

WilliamWallace said...

I feel the same that it is sad when these scumbags get out of jail, so lets lock them up for life and let them make their peace with God. An easy out by killing them is no punishment and the church has it right by saying that only God can determine when people die, killing them for a crime isn't a choice we can make, even as a society.

Larry Castellani said...

Obviously this is a horrendous kind of crime, if not the absolute worst. … I’m not in favor of the death penalty. I’d give them life in prison and make them work to pay back society doing things that don’t compete with business. They could clean streets, fight fires, run the government (Oh, wait, we already have other kinds of criminals running the government. Sorry for the oversight). But they could be made useful in some way surely.

I don’t think this perverse predilection is a biological error. I think it’s learned behavior but probably irreversible. Nevertheless, if in fact it is learned behavior, possibly something can still be learned from these people about such pathological development. Possibly then we can learn how to prevent it. This is another reason not to kill them.

And, kudos to George Lodick for using his real name. There’s nothing like openness and accountability to raise the level of discussion and create community.

Anonymous said...

Hobbes, you had said that you changed your mind on death penalty because dna cleared so many people that if they were dead it was final. So what happens after you kill many child molesters, someone finds out its a brain disorder and comes up with a cure?
By the way where were all those teachers like mary kay when i was in school? We may have behaved better if we were having crazy sex with a hot teacher.

Anonymous said...

larry...And, kudos to George Lodick for using his real name. There’s nothing like openness and accountability to raise the level of discussion and create community.

I agree, so when is hobbes coming out?

Anonymous said...

Yea Glenn, when are you going to post under your real name?

Anonymous said...

Glenn, I thought it was Mike Norris

Law and Order said...

Check out the latest story today on Brooke Bennett. Her uncle has previously been convicted of rape. After his release he successfully completed Vermont's sexual offender rehab program.

I wonder how Brooke's family feels about the quality of that rehab program. That should have cut his balls off the first time.

Anonymous said...

I thought it was Gary Parenti.

Anonymous said...

I thought it was Cyd Bennett.

Anonymous said...

I thought it was Nick Forster.

DS said...

Let's take a look at one aspect on how screwed up our laws are. How something that's legal one day (before one person's birthday) is illegal a second day (after one person's birthday) while the second person involved is the same age on both days.

Now, if you're a baby raper, that's something entierly different, but the sad thing is that the panic mentality that we currently have is not much different that the panic mentality that caused the McMartin trial:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McMartin_Preschool

That being said, I don't know about you, but I would much rather know if someone who lived in my area was a conviced drug user, murder, thief, etc, than if they 'verbally harrased' someone walking down the street, and now they are consiered a Sex Offender.

DS said...

OBTW, Frank...
"The recidivism rate for sex offenders is 90 plus percent. They are dangerous and do not belong on our streets."

It all depends on how you twist the numbers. The fact is that most jailed 'sex offenders' are also general criminals. The 90 percent figure is only true if you consider ALL crimes that the person might do. If you limit the numbers to only include another sex crime, then they have the lowest rates by far.

But that does not sell papers.

DS said...

Sorry, but found some good numbers on Wikipedia...

"The United States Department of Justice tracked the rearrest, re-conviction, and re-incarceration of former inmates for 3 years after their release from prisons in 15 States in 1994.[1] Key findings include:
Released prisoners with the highest rearrest rates were robbers (70.2%), burglars (74.0%), larcenists (74.6%), motor vehicle thieves (78.8%), those in prison for possessing or selling stolen property (77.4%), and those in prison for possessing, using, or selling illegal weapons (70.2%).
Within 3 years, 2.5% of released rapists were arrested for another rape, and 1.2% of those who had served time for homicide were arrested for homicide."

Again, that doesn't make for a good headline.