February 18, 2008

Irony Can Be Pretty Ironic

The Democrat presidential race continues to plug along with neither candidate appearing capable of capturing the necessary number of delegates before the national convention. This means that so-called super-delegates...comprised of members of Congress, party luminariers, union bosses, etc., etc., numbering some 800...could decide the Dem nominee.

Now, Senator Clinton, for the momemt, holds the lead with these super-types essentially because she was the perceived front-runner from the get-go and we know that political players like to be on the right bandwagon. But since Senator Obama has made this a race, the super-delegates are getting squeamish. Obama has been particularly effective in calling on super delegates who are elected officials to cast their votes in the way their constituents did....kind of a "follow the will of the people" type argument. Clinton, of course, is opposed to that, saying the rules are the rules and the super delegates should follow their own instincts in choosing who is best to lead the party.

OK, now to the ironic party. Remember the 2000 election and claims that George Bush stole the election from Al Gore because Al Gore won the popular vote but Bush won the electoral college? Remember claims that the will of the people was being subverted? Remember major Dem leaders like Hillary Clinton beating this drum?

Now, you have Democratic primary voters turning out in record numbers to cast their votes for either Clinton or Obama in a race that has really caught fire....especially compared to the apathy being expressecd by Republican voters who are staying home in their primary elections.

And now it seems Clinton is willing to use political insiders to snatch the nomination and take away the will of Dem voters in many of these states. Maybe irony is the wrong word here....hyprocrisy might be a better fit. Whether you like Hillary or not, the Clinton machine has a reputation for doing and saying anything to get what they want.

This is old school backroom politics at its worse and many liberals who complained about 2000 should be out front saying so right now....their silence is deafening.

11 comments:

Anonymous said...

Maybe you just can't hear them cause your head's up some Republican's ass?

dark knight said...

I agree that the left has been silent on this and it's a bit suprising. The GOP nomination has been a big snooze fest (which is very bad news for Republicans) while the Dem primary has been an engertic contest that promises to propel the winner to the front of the pack.

Obama needs to capitalize on this issue to show Hillary really isn't about change, she's about winning power. If he can do that, we'll be saying President Obama next year.

Larry S said...

With Hillary, the sword never cuts both ways. It only cuts the way she wants it to cut. Unfortunately for her, this time she is the one who is going to get burned by the same methods she herself had previously championed.

Fat Tony said...

Hobbes, the only thing I disagree on is that a lot is being written about this today and the heat on Clinton really is getting turned up.

I am surprised that the party of the common man will leave it up to the elite to pick their nominee.

Roofless Mo Fo said...

What of the irony that the New York GOP delegation now supports John "Amnesty" McCain? Didn't they oppose Spitzer's license amnesty plan? I don't hear you bringing that up ...

Grease Monkey said...

Boy, Hobbes touched a nerve today with some people. I didn't know the purpose of this post was immigration...I thought it was some of the interesting pecularities of the primary.

Hillary's hit squad is ready to pounce at any unfavorable but you can't deny the fact that this agent of change is relying on the status-quo types to hand her the nomination.

proud democrat said...

Lets face it. At the end of the day the country will be better off with either Dem in office. Atleast until the dust settles from the current administration. Then it will be their ass to the fire. And they will need to go. Its all a vicious circle.

dark knight said...

I disagree, PD. The country may be better off with Obama in office, but Hillary is a different story. The way her team has acted during the primary, especially Bubba, is disgraceful.

It harkens back to the last decade when politics on both sides of the aisle was a no-holds-barred mudslinging death match where issues were irrelevant. You can see that now with Hillary and the way she is willing to use super delegates to get the nomination.

Obama represents something new and fresh and maybe the start of a new kind of political discourse. Hillary is the past and Obama is the future.

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Anonymous said...

No one with a brain claimed that Bush "stole" the election from Gore based upon a disparity between the electoral college and popular vote. The issue was whether the federal Supreme Ct had the right to overturn the state Supreme Ct's decision to begin a recount of votes in Florida; a bit contradictory given that the Republican platform emphasizes state rights over a dominant federal gov't.
Perhaps you should send your "example" of irony to Alanis Morissette so she can write another song about irony in which none of her statements are actually ironic.